UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

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UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Thu May 05, 2016 10:00 pm

Ever since I upgraded to 6.70, build 4600, the UnRAR location 'add-ons' no longer work. Like

F:\burn\newsbin\Downloads\$(FILENAME)\

The $(FILENAME) part gets ignored (on all downloads, not just 1), and, in this case, just wind up in F:\burn\newsbin\Downloads\ instead.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby Quade » Fri May 06, 2016 12:03 am

I just tested $(FILENAME) and it worked fine for the download path. Then I added it to the UnRAR path and it worked there too.

Make sure you haven't set a "per group" UnRAR path. It'll override the main unrar path.

Newsbin finds the filename from the subject. If you're downloading something that doesn't have the filename in the subject, then the filename won't be used.

If you use NZB Files you probably want to use $(NZBFILE) instead of "$(FILENAME)"
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Fri May 06, 2016 3:01 am

Thanks for your reply.

Hmm, strange it works for you. Not sure exactly where I can find this "per group" UnRAR path, so here is a small screenshot of the pertinent window:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=CC6AFE600F85B114!125&authkey=!AI7lgnrNpHr8ZVQ&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

I hadn't actually changed any setting: I merely upgraded.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby Quade » Fri May 06, 2016 9:19 am

How are you downloading? Search, Headers or NZB Files?

Wonder if it's related to that.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Fri May 06, 2016 9:27 am

Quade wrote:How are you downloading? Search, Headers or NZB Files?

Wonder if it's related to that.


Strictly using NZB's. :)
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby Quade » Fri May 06, 2016 10:51 am

How about emailing one to ts@newsbin.com. I'll check it out.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Fri May 06, 2016 5:29 pm

Quade wrote:How about emailing one to ts@newsbin.com. I'll check it out.


Just emptied my download folder (with the .nzb's in them), LOL. Trying to find a new one.

Preliminary report: several downloads wounds up in the correct unRAR spot. I'm beginning to suspect it only happens after a repair took place. Will send you a good nzb as soon as I find one (that is short enough too, download wise).

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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby Quade » Fri May 06, 2016 5:47 pm

If they were already in the download list when you upgraded it could be a change in behavior that goes away when you add new NZB's to the list.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Fri May 06, 2016 7:43 pm

Quade wrote:How about emailing one to ts@newsbin.com. I'll check it out.


Just sent you a faulting nzb. Thank you!
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby mankind99uk » Sat May 07, 2016 7:21 pm

Having the same problem when using any nzb, unrar doesn't use D:\Newsbin Download\$(GROUP)\$(FILENAME)\ it ignores the last part and unrar's in the $(GROUP) folder
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Sat May 07, 2016 8:46 pm

mankind99uk wrote:Having the same problem when using any nzb, unrar doesn't use D:\Newsbin Download\$(GROUP)\$(FILENAME)\ it ignores the last part and unrar's in the $(GROUP) folder


Makes one think whether it's really just $(FILENAME) which is broken?! (Under circumstances)
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby Quade » Sun May 08, 2016 12:08 am

I got the NZB. Haven't had a chance to look at it yet. I have a feeling the problem is with the subject and not $(FILENAME) because one of you has some files that add filename and I had 100% filename so I'm thinking it's NZB Specific.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Sun May 08, 2016 12:25 am

Quade wrote:I got the NZB. Haven't had a chance to look at it yet. I have a feeling the problem is with the subject and not $(FILENAME) because one of you has some files that add filename and I had 100% filename so I'm thinking it's NZB Specific.


Thanks for being on the ball with this. :)
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby Quade » Sun May 08, 2016 12:30 am

You can see the proposed download path in the download list when the files are added. If they don't show the filename then it's probably not going to be in the path.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby jonas » Sun May 08, 2016 9:36 am

I have the same problem. Ever since updating to 6.7 $(FILENAME) gets ignored. I've changed it to $(NZBFILE) and thats working fine, its just FILENAME thats broken.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Sun May 08, 2016 10:50 am

Quade wrote:You can see the proposed download path in the download list when the files are added. If they don't show the filename then it's probably not going to be in the path.


Just got a 'miss' again; and the name was clearly present in the download path.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby Quade » Sun May 08, 2016 12:14 pm

You have an unrar path set too. The unrar path sets the final destination meaning the download path can be correct and then they get unrared to some other folder.

NZB Downloaders should probably use $(NZBFILE) though. It's more reliable than filename because filename requires Newsbin to extract the filename from the subject.

Might be interesting to try clearing the unrar folder in the options and then set the NZB Download folder to be what the unrar folder used to be. In that way it downloads and unrars to the same folder.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Sun May 08, 2016 8:01 pm

Quade wrote:Might be interesting to try clearing the unrar folder in the options and then set the NZB Download folder to be what the unrar folder used to be. In that way it downloads and unrars to the same folder.


Problem with that is, I really need a separate download path first: can't hold it all on the same drive. And you really take a *huge* performance hit on unRAR-ing when source- and destination disc are the same. I'd rather see it fixed one day. :)

I shall try $(NZBFILE), though. But please note that this erroneous behavior only started with 6.70, build 4600.

Thanks, as usual, for looking into it.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby Quade » Mon May 09, 2016 12:07 am

Problem with that is, I really need a separate download path first: can't hold it all on the same drive. And you really take a *huge* performance hit on unRAR-ing when source- and destination disc are the same. I'd rather see it fixed one day.


I just wanted to see if it worked. If that worked then the problem is that the unrar path is losing the filename.

There won't be any fixes till the next beta cycle starts up so, at this point I'm just trying to characterize it.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby mankind99uk » Mon May 09, 2016 7:21 pm

Tried adding $(NZBFILE), that worked using NZB's only.
Went back to $(FILENAME), doesn't work, the unrar path has lost the filename.
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Re: UnRAR folder 'add-ons' broken

Postby meimeiriver » Mon May 09, 2016 7:28 pm

mankind99uk wrote:Tried adding $(NZBFILE), that worked using NZB's only.
Went back to $(FILENAME), doesn't work, the unrar path has lost the filename.


Using $(NZBFILE) myself now (as I only use NZB's anyway). So far so good (remember, it didn't always go wrong: only sometimes). 'Still collating.' :wink:

$(FILENAME) remains flaky. UnRAR-ed several music folders the other day, all of which went into their appropriate name folder, except for 1 single, stray .flac file, that just wound up in the main folder.
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