"Load the Download list..."

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"Load the Download list..."

Postby apsen » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:42 am

When I start V6 I'm getting "Load the Download list" box. It takes more then ten minutes to load and then there's nothing in download list - which is correct at the moment but why does it take so long to process it then?
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:55 am

Failed and scratch list? They're download lists too. I'd delete the downloads.db3 to wipe things clean.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby apsen » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:56 pm

Turns out 'Wish List' is also part of the downloads - I must have accidentally hit some shortcut with lots of headers selected for deletion that puts headers there. The problem is - I didn't even have that window enabled so I had no Idea what is going on. Why those headers were even loaded into memory upon startup if there's no window to display them?
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:45 am

The wish list exists. The display just shows you what's in it. So, whether the display is visible or not doesn't matter. If you add things to the wish list, Newsbin keeps track of things for you. That's how it's supposed to work.

Ctrl-Ins shortcut will add things to wish. I wonder if you've been hitting that by mistake?
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby apsen » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:14 am

Quade wrote:Ctrl-Ins shortcut will add things to wish. I wonder if you've been hitting that by mistake?

Ouch! That hurts - Ctrl-Ins is usually reserved for 'Copy' operation (the same operation they later have added Ctrl-C for it).
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:36 am

You can change the shortcut to anything you want.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby apsen » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:37 pm

Quade wrote:You can change the shortcut to anything you want.

I have removed it from "Add to Wish List" but how do I make it synonym for Ctrl-C?
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:48 pm

I don't know. I don't remap my shortcuts. No sure you can re-map Ctrl-C since the lists use them to copy to clipboard.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby apsen » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:52 pm

Quade wrote: No sure you can re-map Ctrl-C since the lists use them to copy to clipboard.


I don't think you've got what I want. I want Ctrl-C and Ctrl-Ins to do the same thing. That is I do not want to touch Ctrl-C assignment.

I could assign Ctrl-Ins to different commands but I could not find Copy on the list of available commands. Am I missing something or is it impossible?
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:28 pm

It's an "I don't know". I've never tried it.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby astrax » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:37 pm

I know this is an old thread, but currently I run into similar problems (6.51):
Even though the DL list was empty (all downloads were finished, NB closed), when I start again it takes several minutes until the "load the DL list" windows goes away.
Now I deleted the downloads.db3, which sped it up a tiny bit, but it still takes about two minutes.
Is that normal? Is it possible, that the Downloaded.db3-wal causes this - it's about 2,5 GB at the moment...

I also have a very slow response, when I click the "download latest group updates" button. I can seee the data is transferred by the speed that is shown, but again it takes quite some time, until the entries are shown in the download window.

thanks!
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:00 pm

I'd say downloaded.db3 is the culprit. Might want to delete it. I need to consider some auto-trimming too.

I'd delete downloaded.db3 and the associated WAL file.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby astrax » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:07 pm

Ok, thanks. The Downloaded.db3 itself is only about 250 MB.
When I delete them (Downloaded.db3 + wal), will already downloaded files still be marked as such?
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:07 pm

This is just the files list. It's not used for any tracking.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby astrax » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:24 am

I deleted both of them and they're smaller now. But it still really takes long for the "LTDL" window to disappear.
It also takes almost all of the time for the entries to appear (if they appear at all) in the download window, when downloading the latest group updates. Even though it is obviously downloading them (speed/data transfer is shown).
Would compacting the database (groups) help in any way with speed/reaction times?
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:30 am

I'd install "Procmon" and watch what files Newsbin is loading. You might want to clear the failed list too.

Download, Wish and Failed lists are all part of what gets loaded during startup.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby bobsmo » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Just FYI, I had this as well, about a 90 sec load time.....deleting all the downloaded.* files worked perfectly.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:49 pm

6.52 will cap the size of the downloaded.db3 files.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby astrax » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:35 pm

Good, I hope it helps. As I noticed, the downloaded.db3 grows pretty fast...
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Another question related to speed/size: the CHUNKS folder is pretty big (about 20 GB) right. Would that slow down NB in any way? Can it be cleaned manually, without causing problems?
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:49 pm

You can wipe it. It suggests you have a bunch of partial file downloads though.

Might want to wait till the download list empties to wipe it though.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby insolution » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:08 am

Attn Wade: This should be a FAQ...

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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:52 am

The chunks folder is self purging so, eventually these chunk will age out and be deleted.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby astrax » Sat May 03, 2014 5:19 am

Hm, mine seems to be growing, if I don't remove stuff from time to time.
For example partially downloaded files, removed from the download list, because they weren't complete and would not finish anyway, would not be removed from the Chunks folder.
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Re: "Load the Download list..."

Postby Quade » Sat May 03, 2014 9:52 am

I'll check it out.
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