New Headers not being highlighted

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New Headers not being highlighted

Postby IdontexistM8 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:59 pm

Noticed this for awhile but I thought it would sort itself out over time.

I'm finding with a number of groups I regularly grab headers (both in folders and individual) that some, but not all, newly downloaded headers aren't being highlighted green and are instead going straight to 'old'. I usually have 'Hide Old' set and only accidentally found out I was missing seeing some new files. I can't work out whether there's anything specific about the headers that are doing this. Database problem or something else?
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby DThor » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:24 pm

Never seen it. I have auto-mark old enabled, so when headers are loaded, they're marked old on disk, but stay green for that session, until I reload them. Might want to check you don't have that enabled.

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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby Quade » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:47 am

I wonder if you have the group open multiple places? They get marked old when loaded so, if you have a group open in one tab and it's also open in a group of groups tab, it's very possible it'll only be new in one place because it's opening twice and the first time marks the posts old.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby IdontexistM8 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:29 pm

I have Auto Mark Old enabled as I always liked that feature in V4 and find it easier, also I have 'Hide Old' in display settings on the tabs. I thought I'd look at what the help wiki says and certainly I 'double click' the large folders and individual groups on the group list. Anything to do with it? FYI I'm pulling headers from two servers, Astra with compression, Usenet-news without.

As I said I haven't noticed anything particular about what is and isn't being shown. If for example I check a group or folder once a day, I can find bunches of posts that should have been highlighted in the last download the day before that can only be found if I toggle the display settings to none.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby Quade » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:13 pm

I'm just guessing. I've not seen this happen myself. You probably don't have to bother pulling headers from Usenet-news unless it's got groups that AW doesn't.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby IdontexistM8 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:46 pm

Quade wrote:I'm just guessing. I've not seen this happen myself. You probably don't have to bother pulling headers from Usenet-news unless it's got groups that AW doesn't.


I'm not sure how complete Astra is currently, I do see different header counts, sometimes Astra with more, other times Usenet-news. So I've always considered it worthwhile to avoid any gaps in groups with large multipart audio files that may not have pars.

Perhaps it needs someone with a similar two or more master server setup to report whether they are getting similar behaviour.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby IdontexistM8 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:00 pm

Well I've given it a few days only downloading headers from Astra to test this out fully. Sadly, even using the latest beta, the same thing is occurring.

What's the next step?
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby dexter » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:11 pm

How are you finding these posts that shouldn't have gotten marked old? With Auto-mark old set, all posts get marked old when you close a post list. Can you provide a step by step procedure of your workflow that leads to showing these posts that shouldn't have gotten marked old?

I'm running 3 servers on auto-header download every 15 minutes with auto-mark old enabled and I'm not seeing any obvious issues.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby IdontexistM8 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:28 pm

I'm finding these posts by changing up the age limit. The posts should either have been highlighted 'yesterday' (going on the basis I predominately download headers daily) or highlighted 'today'. Instead neither happens and they can only be found by changing the age to, in this example, 2 days.

99% of the time I double click on a folder of say between 2 and 35 groups, with Auto-Mark old set. Once the headers have downloaded I will toggle in Display Settings between Hide Old and None, and then browse through the posts.

FYI I first stumbled on the issue when the new post numbers for one particularly large folder of audio groups seemed rather low.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby dexter » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:44 pm

Is a post list already open when you double-click by chance? I wonder if some stuff you haven't seen yet is getting marked old when the list is reloaded after doing a double-click.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby IdontexistM8 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:58 pm

Nope, post list is closed.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby dexter » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:13 pm

How about separating the header download and show post activity? Instead of double-click, do a ctrl-g to download latest headers. When it's done, do a ctrl-l to show posts and see if it behaves differently.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby IdontexistM8 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:25 pm

Ok. . . should I do that per individual group or as a folder(s)?
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby dexter » Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:11 pm

I'd keep it simple and do it on individual groups then work up from there.
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Re: New Headers not being highlighted

Postby IdontexistM8 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:47 pm

Alright, I'll try that and report back.
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