NZB Loads Incomplete | NB Version 6.01B.1211

[newSince]

I upgraded version 5.9 to the first stable release of version 6, which I have not used much, basically still trying to get the feel of the changes from 5.9. The latter version I updated to version 6.01B.1211 a few days ago. Ever since then I am struggling to get my NZB files to unfold correctly into all its parts. These NZB files, unzipped, are all sourced from NZBMatrix and auto-loaded into Newsbin.

What I find with the larger number of NZB files, once unbundled in the download list, is that the list of parts (any file type, configuration or number of) are incomplete. I have to return to the NZB file source and recompile a NZB from the missing parts and reload it into the download list. Even then I find that such a newly compiled NZB may break down into a incomplete list of parts so the process has to be repeated until all the missing parts are loaded.

Please help me find the solution.

[Quade]

Have you compared the contents of the NZB to what Newsbin is showing you?

Have you "Load NZB" the NZB into newsbin and examined the contents in the post list?

As I see it, this is one of 2 things.

1 - The content isn't in the NZB and Newsbin is showing you what's really in there.

2 - The content IS there and Newsbin isn't showing all the contents of the NZB.

So the question then hinges on what's inside the NZB. Is it complete and does it have what you think it does or doesn't it? You can edit NZB's with wordpad and look to see if it actually has the missing files in it. My guess (my hope anyway) is that the NZB's you feed into Newsbin are incomplete so, the problem is the NZB. I base that guess on the fact that the people on the IRC channel who also use NZBMatrix haven't reported this to me.

[DThor]

I use NZBMatrix all the time, and never have troubles like this. I also always quickly glance at any comments from users, they can be clues to problematic posts. Of course, it's always possible to have trouble with a particular post, usenet shifts, it's not a permanent beast, but you're inferring these problems are typical. They're not, there's something up your end. Perhaps something interfering with the nzb download?

Do you zip your nzbs? If you just download one nzb, throw it into the auto download folder, does it always work? You need to distill down your workflow to see what's triggering the behaviour.

DT

[newSince]

2 - The content IS there and Newsbin isn't showing all the contents of the NZB.

Thank you Quade, for your quick response.

I opened the NZB in Notepad, but due to my inexperience, cannot make much of it. It does look, however, as if the content of the NZB is all there, as only three files of the NZB were loaded in the download list out 45 [248.7MB out of 4.95GB]. Either way, I've never had this problem with NZBMatrix before.

I do not zip the NZB's.

If you wish, I could send you the NZB, plus snapshots, by email?

[Quade]

Sure email it. Don't zip it but, you can rar it.

ts at newsbin dot com

Tell me what you're expecting to be in there too.

[newSince]

^Done

[Quade]

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<segment bytes="397592" number="91">4e557bec$0$14656$4c497a88@hitnews.eu</segment>
<segment bytes="397901" number="92">4e557bed$1$14656$4c497a88@hitnews.eu</segment>
<segment bytes="397262" number="93">4e557bee$1$14656$4c497a88@hitnews.eu</segment>
<segment bytes="397091" number="94">4e557bef$1$14656$4c497a88@hitnews.eu</segment>
<segment bytes="397258" number="95">4e557bf0$3$14656$4c497a88@hitnews.eu</segment>
<segment bytes="397422" number="96">4e557bf1$3$14656$4c497a88@hitnews.eu</segment>
<segment bytes="397528" number="97">4e557bf2$1$14656$4c497a88@hitnews.eu</segment>
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This is what was at the end of the NZB. Basically the NZB is incomplete and was cut off when downloaded. Newsbin shows the 2 complete files but, not this incomplete one. There should probably be another 30-40 files in the NZB. Essentially there's something wrong with how the NZB's are being downloaded. I'd try downloading them as ZIP files and see if the symptoms change.

[newSince]

Bingo! The zipped NZB loaded and expanded perfectly at first try. Thanks, that solves the immediate problem. Where/how does one now establish what is causing the interference with the straight NZB? A long shot: Could it be that Newsbin is allowing interference if it is not set as the default for NZB files?

[DThor]

I doubt it, probably some sort of antivirus. Try completely disabling anything remotely like that(some of them never, ever make that easy, though) and see if you get clean nzb's. I'll admit I'd want to get it solved myself, but keep in mind Newsbin will work just fine with zipped nzb's directly, in terms of a workaround...

DT

[itimpi]

What is the ISP? For a while I had a similar issue on VirginMedia with NZB files that were not ZIPed. The problem seemed to be that somewhere in the VirginMedia network a copy of the incomplete NZB would be cached. There was some discussion in the NZBMatrix forums about such an issue, and in all cases it looked like being the fault of th ISP with VirginMedia being one it was most likely to occur on.

I found that using the ZIP version was more likely to be OK. I also did not get the issue if I used a https style connection to NZBMatrix.

[Quade]

Yeah, Newsbin doesn't even see the NZB till well after it's downloaded. It's the download that fails.

[newSince]

Thanks, Itimpi. Astraweb sub. Will look into https (with API key?).

However, this did not happen at all before i.e. before switching to NBP v6.01B%.1211? Why now?

Have to log out now. Will catch up again tomorrow evening, DV.

[DThor]

It's a coincidence, as far as the release. The nzb is being corrupted before Newsbin even looks at it. You can use https with nzbmatrix by simply using https:// at the start instead of http://. The issue itimpi was talking about is specifically your ISP, not the usenet server. If you're not on VirginMedia, it's likely unrelated to your problem.

DT

[newSince]

Thanks, everyone. I have indeed installed new and updated several apps (including Newsbin) after a longish absence from my PC. ISP not VirginMedia. I will go through the process of elimination to try and find the culprit as this is extremely annoying. Meanwhile the zipped NZB's are working just dandy.

[Quade]

Good chance it's not your PC at all. Just like they said, a web cache caching a bad copy would can cause this too.

[newSince]

Report-back:

I experimented with SABnzbd for a short time during which I made it the default for NZB's. Also installed NZBStatus -a companion extension for SABnzbd - in Firefox v6. Removing the Firefox extension, NZBStatus, made no difference to the corruption of the NZB's. but the moment I uninstalled SABnzbd, the corruption ended. Somehow SABnzbd seems to have interfered with the download of the standard (i.e not zipped) NZB file.

[DThor]

Good to know.

DT

[Quade]

Wonder if you had 2 programs contending for the NZB at the same time?

[newSince]

Wonder if you had 2 programs contending for the NZB at the same time?

Purely out of interest, Quade, how does one establish the fact? Not that it matters anymore, as I've now uninstalled what I'd suspected to be the culprit.

On a more serious note: since running v6.10 RC1.1267, I am getting a myriad of incomplete files downloaded - even some of the pars where available. I have seen numerous posts on the same topic, but so far I could not wrestle a solution out of any. First time ever this has happened. Problem on both large and small file sizes. Two Astraweb servers: Main and Slave/fill, using 15 of 20 connections. Should I open a new topic elsewhere?

[Quade]

viewtopic.php?f=44&t=29020

Try this. Change the autoassembler to disable it.

Procmon would let you see if multiple files are accessing the NZB at the same time.

[newSince]

Thanks Quade. For some reason I am unable to access the particular topic (board message reads: "You are not authorised to read this forum"). However, if the topic relates to setting the autoassembler value in the nbi-file to something like 100000, I have already done that, but have yet to download something to see what gives.

Thanks too, for the procmon tip.