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by **richy99** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:27 am

yes but i used to be able to do it in v5 aswell

by **fableman** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:02 pm

A good working UPLOAD feature!!!!

by **Quade** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:10 pm

What would you have it do that it doesn't do now? Generate the PAR files before posting? I'm just wondering how fully featured you need. I've posted gigs to my test server with it.

by **richy99** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:31 pm

fableman wrote:A good working UPLOAD feature!!!!

what wrong currently?

by **Andreas** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:22 am

Ortep wrote:It would be nice if there was a better way to clean the junk that stays behind after autorar.
When you use NZB's the 'download' folder often contains a lots of garbage. Things like an NZB, a srr, sfv, nfo, par2 sample etc.

I spend quite some time checking my download directory for things that may be of interrest. I have to open al subfolders and look if something usefull is there and if not, delete the directory.

I would like an option to give NPB a list of file names (*.nfo, *.sfv etc)to delete after autopar is finished. And delete empty folders afterwards.

Yes, this would really be a helpful feature.

Another feature I would like to see: It should be visible in the search results of internet search whether a posting is incomplete. Currently, the Status column says "Idle/New" even if the posting is incomplete. You have to right-click, Uncompact Search Results, to see the correct status (Incomplete).

by **Semel** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:10 am

t would be nice if there was a better way to clean the junk that stays behind after autorar.

Auto CleanUp after PAR2\unrar is done must be made via boolean wildmats filters.
We set boolean wildmats in a given field and NB deletes all files with those extensions

In other words -look to usenet explorer. u can learn a lot from this newreader.

by **T_llguy** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:25 pm

I would like to be able to post a text message to a group once in a while. The way I have to do it now is unhide old messages and pick reply to group and change all the text I can but the problem is it shows up under the thread that I replied to instead of a new text message.

Thanks

by **richy99** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:43 pm

right click the group and post to group, doesnt that work currently?

by **Quade** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:28 pm

I think what he means is that the reply doesn't include the message-id of the original message.

by **richy99** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:21 pm

sounded to me he wanted a completely new message

by **Edward** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:53 am

Let's bring it up again.

The 'Speedlimiter' could be set a bit higher than 20Mbit/s. At this moment I use an 90Mbit/s cable connection, end of the month it's upgraded to 120Mbit/s.
Most of the time the binaries come rolling in at that speed. Therefor site's or other things load slowly.
Then I have to use the 'Speedlimiter', if I want to surf the net with normal loads. But, 20Mbit/s is very slow and I do not need the extra speed thats made free (approx. 40Mbit/s - end of the month 100Mbit/s) by using the 'Speedlimiter'.
Can't the 'Speedlimiter' be set to a max. of 50Mbit/s?
Internet speeds are getting higher all over the world, so maybe a little adjustment could be made.
I know how you feel about that adjustment Quade, but be realistic, it's greatly appreciated by high-speed connection users.

by **richy99** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:03 am

the speed limiter would need to be completely rewritten to do this, how many connections do you normally use?

by **itimpi** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:05 am

The reason is that there is a current 20Mb limit is not aribitary - it is a technical limit imposed by the granularity Windows gives on timeslices. I know that Quade is looking to provide a higher limit for v6, but that is going to have to use a completely different mechanism than the current speed limiter to achieve this, so whether progress has been made I am not sure.

by **Edward** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:09 am

richy99 wrote:the speed limiter would need to be completely rewritten to do this, how many connections do you normally use?

Even with the use of 1 connection the speed is at it's maximum.

I'm only using XS News, Eweka is a server I sometimes used, not active right now.
Lowering the amount of connections is no solution to set the max downloadspeed to, let's say, 40- or 50Mbit/s

itimpi wrote:The reason is that there is a current 20Mb limit is not aribitary - it is a technical limit imposed by the granularity Windows gives on timeslices. I know that Quade is looking to provide a higher limit for v6, but that is going to have to use a completely different mechanism than the current speed limiter to achieve this, so whether progress has been made I am not sure.

Thanks for the explanation. Hopefully he will find a way to implement it.

by **itimpi** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:23 am

Lowering the number of connection may not download the max Newsbin speed, but it will definitely reduce the effect on any other applications using the network. If you really can get away with 1 or 2 connections, you may find the need to use the bandwidth limiter disappears.

by **Edward** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:41 pm

itimpi wrote:Lowering the number of connection may not download the max Newsbin speed, but it will definitely reduce the effect on any other applications using the network. If you really can get away with 1 or 2 connections, you may find the need to use the bandwidth limiter disappears.

Then the button for the speedlimiter can be deleted, for everybody :shock:

A click at the button just works fine, but, I'll rest my case and will adjust the settings for connections everytime I need to use it

Thanks!

by **richy99** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:54 pm

many people seem to want to run 20 connections AND the speed limiter at the same time, which is pointless

as mentioned it will take alot of work to get it to work as people want over 20meg

by **Edward** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:43 pm

richy99 wrote:many people seem to want to run 20 connections AND the speed limiter at the same time, which is pointless

as mentioned it will take a lot of work to get it to work as people want over 20meg

Okay! Never the less, since today I have a connection of 120Mb/s (My ISP is upgrading faster then promised

).
My HDD for the downloads is a Samsung HD103UJ (1TB, SATA-2, 7200rpm), not realy a slow harddrive, but since today I noticed that NewsBin can't keep up.
I downloaded a but NewsBin Pro started repairing and decoding after the downloadlist was completed (and it took a few minutes, up to 10 minutes).
I checked it during all the downloads and all the files we're placed in the right folder, but nothing happened.

Unfortunately, it can't keep up... it isn't realy a problem, but if you can make the headering circumstantial faster, maybe the downloading, checking and decoding can keep up with the faster headering? (FYI I use NZB's, no headering here, but the headering seems to be quicker since version 5, as you said Quade).

Maybe I missed a topic on this forum, but just wanted to tell you... (Quade, Dexter and the testers)

by **Quade** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:09 pm

If they eventually unrar, I don't see the problem. It's pretty dependent on your PC. What you're reporting seems particularly slow though. For unrar and repair, CPU's are pretty important too. I download to a single 7200 rpm disk and my machine doesn't fall behind even at twice that speed. It's a quad core though running > 3.5 Ghz.

Sounds like the files are downloading faster than they can be checked. That's either CPU or disk IO.

by **Edward** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:13 pm

Quade wrote:If they eventually unrar, I don't see the problem. It's pretty dependent on your PC. What you're reporting seems particularly slow though. For unrar and repair, CPU's are pretty important too. I download to a single 7200 rpm disk and my machine doesn't fall behind even at twice that speed. It's a quad core though running > 3.5 Ghz.

Sounds like the files are downloading faster than they can be checked. That's either CPU or disk IO.

It shouldn't be a problem...

by **richy99** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:42 am

its an amd machine, that could be the cause, the library dont see mto play that well with amd

by **Edward** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:10 am

richy99 wrote:its an amd machine, that could be the cause, the library dont see mto play that well with amd

It's not a bug, it's a feature whahahaha :lol:

by **Quade** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:12 am

The AMD thing applies during repair. Not during download. It's pretty obvious if you have that problem. Either repair fails or it consumes all of your RAM. The solution is using the older non-multicore par dll. Edward, you don't seem to have the symptoms.

by **Edward** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:56 pm

Quade wrote:The AMD thing applies during repair. Not during download. It's pretty obvious if you have that problem. Either repair fails or it consumes all of your RAM. The solution is using the older non-multicore par dll. Edward, you don't seem to have the symptoms.

Okay, thanks for your reply!
Usually, it works fine, but I just noticed it now the faster downloadspeed is available.
I never had this problem and it worked great.
A lot of downloads seem to be placed in a queue now, but they all get extracted eventually.

by **fableman** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:48 pm

Requesting a app for iphone to controll the newsbin program over the phone with possibilty to feed .nzb to the program from the phone.
Check download speeds, check how many minutes until download compleate and check,pictures and more

Newsbin program can open up a webservice on port 5555 for example and then take remote commands from the iphone app.

Like XBMC.org dose with there remote iphone app.

Then charge $3 for every download.

by **richy99** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:17 pm

highly unlikely to happen but never say never

by **MilesAhead** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:50 pm

What I would like to see in the new version is a button to invert the search display. As example, a video group that has a majority of videos in the German language. If I search headers with the word "german" I get all the hits I don't want. I'd like a button to invert the display to non-matching items. IOW, I think that would be a lot easier than trying to figure out how to enter "not german" in regex. If there's a way to accomplish the same thing in V 5 then of course I'd use it.. but so far I haven't figured it out.

Edit: Ok, I see how to do it now with Reject Filter. When all else fails use the step by step instructions.

by **Semel** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:34 am

Downloading headers within a specific range, say, from 100 to 120 days, or whatever

Is it even remotely possible?

by **fableman** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:19 am

richy99 wrote:highly unlikely to happen but never say never

Just tried "SABnzbd" in combination with iphone app "myNZB" and it works great.

by **DThor** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:00 am

Nobody's questioning the technical possibility, it just makes more sense to develop on a platform without a dogmatic and unpredictable overseer like apple that is as likely to yank an app for showing a nipple as it will approve it. And if you're talking about developing in the 'offmarket' apple world, you've just removed the biggest reason to consider it in the first place - the install base.
Again, I'm just an end user, not the developer, but do a reality check.

DT

by **Quade** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:26 pm

Code: Select all: highly unlikely to happen but never say never

I'd be happy to build support for this into Newsbin. I'm not an app developer though so, someone else would have to do the other end.

by **BillyUK** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:01 pm

Is it \Will it be possible to print off a list of subscribed groups ?
I subscribe to over 50 groups so it would be great to be able to print out a list b4 doing an upgrade/reinstall e.t.c.

by **DThor** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:11 pm

http://help.newsbin.com/index.php/V550- ... r_computer

That outlines the process to move the installation to another computer...

DT

by **itimpi** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:24 pm

Quade wrote:
Code: Select all
highly unlikely to happen but never say never

I'd be happy to build support for this into Newsbin. I'm not an app developer though so, someone else would have to do the other end.

The obvious way to support something like this would be to enhance the current TCP/IP command interface. That would then be useful in other contexts as well.

by **Quade** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:57 am

Agreed.

by **sesam** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:10 pm

I'm hoping for a full modern icon/GUI update, in particular:

- A new Application and .nzb Filetype icon that follows Windows 7 guidelines.

In other words icons that are 256×256 resolution (for people using large icons on very high resolution screens). And has an alpha channel (so that the edges look nice on both dark and white backgrounds). Also the object the icon displays should be displayed in full, or have some kind of background template.

(I think the chances made so far to the GUI look very promising, as previewed in the Newsbin Version 6 Status thread. But I noticed that the main application icon appears to still be the same, thus why I posted this comment).

by **Quade** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:55 pm

'bot icon does have a 256x256 RGB/A mode. I don't know how windows picks an icon out of the EXE for use in explorer. The icons and graphical elements look better in vista and '7 than in XP. XP doesn't support high color/RGBA for all graphical elements.

by **sesam** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:50 pm

Quade wrote:'bot icon does have a 256x256 RGB/A mode. I don't know how windows picks an icon out of the EXE for use in explorer. The icons and graphical elements look better in vista and '7 than in XP. XP doesn't support high color/RGBA for all graphical elements.

I'm confused, are you saying that the icon has already been upgraded for V6, or that the V5 icon is/should be 256x256?

As far as I can tell (I'm using the Windows 7 64bit):

The executable appears to only contain a 48x48 resolution icon, to the left on this screenshot you see how it looks in a window when using large icon view (as you can see the default Windows 7 icons are much higher resolution).While it does appear to be True Color and have an Alpha channel. Opacity isn't used effectively (as you can see in the preview window how it looks on a black background, you can see the white artifacts around the image).

As far as I understand Windows automatically picks the most suitable icon from the executable (depending on your view size and display color depth). So when using large icons, it would normally pick the highest resolution 256x256 one.. but if there isn't such version available it picks the next best version (that appears to be 48x48 in this case)

by **Quade** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:10 pm

I'm talking about 6.... since you asked about 6. I can see how it might be ambiguous though.

Ease of use is all I care about. If that means a ribbon then I'll use a ribbon. If it means an old style menu bar is easier to use, that's what I'll use.

I just installed the new FFox 4 beta. A change they made means, to get at my shortcuts is a two step process now. In 3 it's "click menu, select shortcut". In 4 it's "click start like button, click arrow, click shortcut". Sure it's pretty but, usability is crap.

by **fableman** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:15 pm

DThor wrote:Nobody's questioning the technical possibility, it just makes more sense to develop on a platform without a dogmatic and unpredictable overseer like apple that is as likely to yank an app for showing a nipple as it will approve it. And if you're talking about developing in the 'offmarket' apple world, you've just removed the biggest reason to consider it in the first place - the install base.
Again, I'm just an end user, not the developer, but do a reality check.

DT

Chill down please don't make this a childish apple vs pc thing.

If I would make an phone app and get a $$$'s for the job i would made an iphone app, iphone users just more willing to pay for things then android market.
If I wanted to make a free app I would make it HTML5. (can still charge for an html5 app and maybe thats the future for all phone devs out there)

by **Quade** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:51 pm

He's sort of kidding. Still it's true that Apple is pretty arbitrary about what it permits in the App store. Read about what happened with the App store version of VLC.

by **DThor** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:01 pm

Naw, I wasn't kidding.

Anyway, I think that having something along the lines of an enhanced TCP/IP interface is a great idea, since it's platform agnostic.

DT

by **sesam** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:13 pm

Quade wrote:I'm talking about 6.... since you asked about 6. I can see how it might be ambiguous though.

Ease of use is all I care about. If that means a ribbon then I'll use a ribbon. If it means an old style menu bar is easier to use, that's what I'll use.

Oh, good to hear the icon was already updated

Well personally I don't like ribbons either, but I do like nice shiny looking icons/toolbars. Some times icons/GUI can be a deciding factor when choosing software. For example I recently bought PowerArchiver mainly because of the neat GUI, even though 7-Zip did functionally do the same things. And I avoid having irfanview installed, only because the application has an icon of a road killed cat :lol:

by **Quade** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:16 pm

some times icons/GUI can be a deciding factor when choosing software.

To me, that's like buying a car based on the kind of tires it's sold with. I understand everyone is different. I'll take functionality and performance over looks every time.

by **fableman** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:39 pm

Quade wrote:He's sort of kidding. Still it's true that Apple is pretty arbitrary about what it permits in the App store. Read about what happened with the App store version of VLC.

ok

I don't think they mind a remote controller for newsbindpro when they allready got two remote apps for sabnzbd.

by **airoff** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:59 am

Thank you Dexter & Quade for continuing to improve a program I use everyday, for more years than I can remember! I always recommend it to my clients. I just have a few annoyances to report.

AUTOPAR - LEFTOVER FILES - I download the RARs & PARs (I'm not using the PARS tab). If the fileset is clean, Autopar starts decoding. Meanwhile, it still continues to d/l the rest of the PARs. It looks like it only deletes the files that were present at the start of decoding, leaving some or all of the PARs in the download folder.

AUTO-SHUTDOWN/AUTOPAR - Auto-shutdown does not test whether AutoPar is in progress. I've had decoding stop because there were no more files to download.

MOTD - how about a button that I can click to see the MOTD if I have it turned off. There is an item under Help for "View the MOTD archive"; a button would help me remember to do it occasionally.

ERROR SCREEN - I don't like that pop-up error screen. It is frequently wrong - tonight I got "Unable to connect to server - call your provider" messages while it was still downloading! Many of the "article not available" messages often are irrelevant since the file decodes properly. I'm sure it's a great tool for debugging, why not give us an option to not show it?

COLUMN DISPLAY - The only way I have found to hide a column is to drag its width all the way left to nothing, or drag the column so far to the right of the display that it doesn't appear in the download window. Then it's a pain to redisplay if you need to. Could you provide a checkbox list to hide/show columns, similar to Windows 7 File Explorer? I do appreciate the ability to reorder them.

OPTIONS - Is it possible to apply some options immediately, instead of on the next restart? For instance, if I change window locations, I have to restart a number of times before I'm happy with the display, which interrupts the download in progress, or just makes the whole process take longer than necessary.

Looking forward to Version 6 & beyond!!

by **Quade** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:43 am

AUTOPAR - LEFTOVER FILES - I download the RARs & PARs (I'm not using the PARS tab). If the fileset is clean, Autopar starts decoding. Meanwhile, it still continues to d/l the rest of the PARs. It looks like it only deletes the files that were present at the start of decoding, leaving some or all of the PARs in the download folder.

Because you're not using it the way it was intended to be used. If you download the pars first, they'll all get deleted. The whole point of the par list is to store the pars till they're needed.

6 doesn't work the same way.

AUTO-SHUTDOWN/AUTOPAR - Auto-shutdown does not test whether AutoPar is in progress. I've had decoding stop because there were no more files to download.

They stay in the download list till unrared so, this is already the way 6 works.

ERROR SCREEN - I don't like that pop-up error screen. It is frequently wrong - tonight I got "Unable to connect to server - call your provider" messages while it was still downloading! Many of the "article not available" messages often are irrelevant since the file decodes properly. I'm sure it's a great tool for debugging, why not give us an option to not show it?

It's not wrong. Some of the connections were failing and some were working. Not really that uncommon with usenet. People run max connections instead of a reasonable number so, when connections fail or timeout, the server thinks you're running too many. You can stop the pop up. Popping up is mainly for the noobs who don't know where the logging tab is. It's in the prompt options.

OPTIONS - Is it possible to apply some options immediately, instead of on the next restart? For instance, if I change window locations, I have to restart a number of times before I'm happy with the display, which interrupts the download in progress, or just makes the whole process take longer than necessary.

Most of the windows in 6 can be dragged, detached and moved around. Some don't yet but, eventually will. The 6 beta is probably going live like that because making some of the current windows dynamic is going to be time consuming and I want download tested. In 5.XX, if you close the windows and re-open, they'll appear in the new position. Obviously not all windows can be closed though. In 6, all the tabs can be closed.

by **airoff** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:32 am

Thanks for the clarifications, Quade. Looking forward to testing the new version when you're ready!

by **nin** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:11 pm

Hi all,

this post is just to draw attention to an older request here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26448
Just in case

Cheers, nin

by **Quade** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:42 pm

You know, it's still on my todo but, I'm not sure it's going to make it into the first beta.

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