How many groups are you subscribed to?

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How many groups do you actively download headers from?

None, I use Newsbin Internet Search
16
4%
None, I use NZB's
62
15%
1-30 Groups
169
40%
31-100 Groups
111
26%
101 - 200 Groups
34
8%
201 - 300 Groups
13
3%
More than 300 Groups
16
4%
 
Total votes : 421

Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby mikeod » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:51 pm

It varies, about 400 at the moment BUT while I do use binsearch for nzbs I rarely use newsbin to download headers. I find Forte Agent to be easier to set filters in. So I look for stuff on binsearch or in Agent, then download it in Newsbin.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby cyman » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:07 pm

1 the rest I use NZBs for
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby ryanbseattle » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:08 pm

I update around 75 regularly, but ~30 of them are low volume. I use binsearch.info for the large groups like boneless.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby shellacnut » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:15 pm

20 groups. I use nzbs occasionally.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Memphoman » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:34 pm

I subscribe to and update hourly approx 50 grps, 12hrs/365days
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby larft » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:07 pm

I have roughly 50 subscribed groups but I tend to load headers for only about a dozen of the smaller groups, I use NZB's frequently for specific posts from the larger groups.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby doug-jensen » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:08 pm

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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby dexter » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:26 pm

I appreciate all the activity in this thread but I didn't intend for people to post their answers unless they have some significant comments to make. Just answer the poll at the top of the thread and click "Submit Vote", you don't have to post a reply.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Elbereth » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:50 pm

I download headers sometimes for around 20 groups.
Mostly when I need something very old (with current retentions of 800+ days) Newzbin raw search just don't cope with it (their current retention is far less... just recently they went past the 200 days). This is punctual and I usually delete the headers after use.
But I also download headers for pictures/comics groups. They usually are much less bigger than the huge (boneless?) ones. For those ones I think I update the headers once a month, with current download speeds it is enough.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby tiger » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:51 pm

I am subscribed to 13 groups.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby x0r » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:52 pm

NZB only...
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby JuanFusy » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:56 pm

6 - All having todo with humour, god knows I need this sitting all day at my PC...;) the rest is done by various NZB sites...
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Nanook1963 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:31 pm

I subscribe to 30 newsgroups and check them at least twice a day.

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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby ancientbriton » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:48 pm

Currently 55; I check them in rotation, which takes about 3 months, then back to the beginning. Personally I have no use for super-long retention; in fact I only "download latest" which is still a lot in Boneless, a.b.music, and suchlike. I check through the headers for things of interest, to get to know new stuff (this is supposed to be what Usenet is for, people). If I'm looking for something in particular, I use Binsearch.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby IdontexistM8 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:52 pm

I'm mainly using search these days, I used to trawl through headers endlessly but I have most of what I'm interested in and that needs sorting. Still have a few groups on the go but the days of daily downloads are in past, just too time consuming.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby PaulHand » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:21 pm

about 50, I use nzb only to add group of headers to download list. I download headers for all subscribed groups every few days.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby savadious » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:22 pm

22The ONLY group I need is alt.fan.justin.beeber.or.whatever.his.name.is

ok.. honestly .. I have about 30 groups autoupdated every 12 hours or so in NBP - on my NAS/Newsbin/media server

Max age = current server max store 800 ish days (giga/astra).
I still have not found a reason to lower this - but if there IS a good reason I will do it.

Its really nice
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby zardozn » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:51 pm

80. Update 6-12 weekly. Astraweb and Newsbin combine for that special feature with the compressed header downloads at the turbo- like speed, so that keeps me downloading headers from even some large groups and possibly I would not be downloading headers very much without that feature. Thanks for that. :D

I like the Newsbin search, but NZB is the way for me with NBZs(dot)ORG and Binsearch.

Much anticipation for 6. :)

Happy Hunting.

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Sorry Dexter.
I do not think your Post had appeared at the time which I began composing a couple hours ago, as had to pause for awhile before submitting, or I would have followed your directions. My apology.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby bobbius » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:15 pm

Much like user itempi, when necessary I use http://www.newzbin.com in 'raw or cond usenet' mode to search a group without the need to download headers. Another alternative is the use of usenet search sites eg Binsearch. Place of last resort is to download from a small number of groups.

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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby cosmo4u » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:21 pm

I monitor about 30 groups on a daily basis....but I have to admit, over the last few months i have been using more NZB's..mainly for time savings.

then the internet search for a wild card :wink:


thanks for taking us users into consideration

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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby bobkoure » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:00 am

135, updated daily. No dump groups
35 are split into the two main newsbin groups I look at daily, the others get searched. I probably should switch to internet search, but this does all I need...
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby RayMark » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:25 am

I now see that I'm subscribed to about 500 groups altogether on two separate Newbin installations, I sometimes run both of them, sometimes one-at-a-time.
They have groups somewhat contents-specific and have different default download drives/folders and some other settings, etc - that gives some more flexibility,
and perhaps increases the total download speed, especially when using slow USB external drives, not writing everything to a single one on a single port perhaps helps.
It is possible to use different download locations with a single Newsbin, but having two different default locations is convenient

I do not store headers so far for those mass dump groups like boneless,
but I keep up-to date all the headers for hdtv, some multimedia, tv groups, etc, they have quite a lot of headers.
Possibly headers of 50-100 groups are pretty much up-to-date, about 50 on each newsbin.
Many of the other subscribed groups - I do not get headers for them regularly, but many of them are smaller ones and it does not take long to update headers even if there are several hundred days to catch up.

I like headers because when I open a group, I have a visual indication what is already downloaded and what is not (even though I am trying to keep my own DB up-to-date)
When downloading using the newsbin search only, I have no such an indication.
I often use a combined method: use search to find what I need, and then open the proper group at the proper day range to download, so that the downloaded files get marked as downloaded for future reference.

Not to have to download headers at all, I need 2 things:

1. To have a reliable search engine with the day range matching/exceeding that of Giganews, and (perhaps/hopefully) including all/most of the groups, not just some of them - I need to have confidence in it.
Not sure to what degree the newsbin search meets those requirements, perhaps pretty close already? I have to experiment, compare with what I actually have in various groups, etc. Hard to say now.

2. Somehow, to have the search results to show up marked as already downloaded or not, perhaps by matching them with the DB of already downloaded stuff. If it can somehow be implemented - it would be really great (!!!)
Perhaps it can be implemented as a separate action, better than nothing: after getting the search results, select something in them and click "check if already downloaded"
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby db-developer » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:30 am

I subscribe to 103 groups which get checked at least once a month, of which 47 groups routinely get checked weekly, and 7 are high volume groups.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby crayjeep1 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:31 am

about 115 groups, but I don't actualy check all of them and need to cut some.

I use binsearch.info but the filtering is poor.

is there anyway to handle a group like ab.mom?

how about a setting that loads jpgs first during a massive download of other stuff?
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Viperz » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:15 am

I used to sort through about 100 different groups, but on a 6Mbit it took forever to update a few of them. Then I found binsearch and never looked back. I don't even bother adding groups anymore. Just use advance search with filters and create the NZB. Now that I'm pulling around 20Mbit I just need a few more terabytes :)
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby johnsr » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:39 am

25
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby foggy_9 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:08 am

I find that having my own data base to search gives me a finer result. I do use Newsbin Search to get me in the ball park and do more research with my data base which gives me very good results. I would like to able to search from who did the posting.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby gdeste » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:35 am

I use NZB files and an NZB search engine
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Bull » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:21 pm

3900+:
-50-100 regularly ~ multiple times a week
-300+ occasionally
-the rest when digging around, latest Newsbin search is getting up to queryspeed so it is getting interesting to keep searches local; used newzbin, keeping binsearch because it's a superfast search which I'd like my local newsbin to become yet then I am sharing with Amsterdamned what I am looking for ~ privacy issue, advertisers, bots..
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby mtravis » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:43 pm

12
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby frank479 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:17 pm

I am subscribed to zero group. NZB all the way...
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby GrouchoBarx » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:36 pm

It varies. 100-200 usually. But now I use nzb search engines for much of my traffic.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Counterspy » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:54 pm

I am following about 70 newsgroups. I normally use nzb files but sometimes a nzb file is missing (as in downloading a tv series and a episode is missing). I need to be able to view the headers to find the missing episode. My provider for nzb files only goes back about 300 days. I use giganews and sometimes need to look back 700 days. It would be nice to have a way to view all 700 days of headers at once. I am running Windows 7 Enterprise x64 with 8 Gigs of memory and a AMD Phenom II 965 BE processor. I run out of memory when trying to view more than a 100 days or so of the large groups (like a.b.boneless).
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Maxdout38 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:54 pm

About 25 groups. (Largest a.b.ath)
Keep posts for 100 days.
I internet search and binsearch.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby ccbell » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:55 pm

I subscribe to 63 groups. I update these every 1-2 days. I also use NZB search sites to find something, especially if it turns out to be in one of the larger groups. Many times that search results in finding something on an unsubscribed group. Thanks for all your good work. Image link not allowed for unregistered users
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Griswald » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:41 pm

None anymore, i use NZBs
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby justdenny » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:00 pm

Over 300 in groups of groups, updated hourly so boneless doesn't crush the life out of anything else I may be doing at the time. Most are low volume, probably 15 high volume.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Porkrinds » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:49 pm

I follow 6-8 moderate traffic groups. I like to window shop those groups. Otherwise I stick to nzbs.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Prof_HHill » Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:51 pm

I normally subscribe to around 10 newsgroups. I download all headers of each, and check for updates 3 or 4 times a week. I use NZBs only occasionally.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby zigzag3143 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:30 am

None, waste of time and overhead.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby david@dfc.com » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:11 am

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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Pieterd » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:53 am

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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby dale_j » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:50 pm

None, I use built in I-net search
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby altpoporama » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:38 pm

25 everyday.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby Jacques56 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:55 pm

Actually 13 but since I am using a web site to find files et to create NSB file, i don't use them very often for searching.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby sjb » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:55 pm

I am with itimpi and idbirch2
Only rarely do i have a reason to use NB to dowhload headers to search usenet for reasons stated by others/
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby bmaxwell » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:59 am

75 Groups.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby billdehaan » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:54 am

I've got 94 listed, in 8 different groups. Of those groups, one containing 23 hasn't been updated in 127 days, so I guess I really only use 71. I suspect a lot of those are probably not that active anyway; I should probably do a pruning at some point.

Unlike a lot of people here, I do download the headers, rather than use indexing sites, because a lot of what I use newsbin for is downloading foreign language stuff (jdrama, that sort of thing). Most of the stuff I learn about either from my friends overseas or from perusing the group listings themselves. I can't really use a search, since I don't know what I'm looking for ahead of time. It's more of a "hmm, that sounds interesting, what is it" sort of thing.

Because of the translation issues, I never know what a series will be called. For example, one series was called "Investigator Mariko", but was also posted as "Kasouken no Onna", "Shin Kasouken", or "Woman of the Crime Lab", depending on the translator (it differed season to season).

What I do is download the headers for, say, a.b.m.japanese, see what's available, and then Google or check a specialty site like http://wiki.d-addicts.com or http://www.jdorama.com for a writeup to determine if it's worthwhile.

One feature I would like to see in v6 is a multi level sort or filter mechanism. For example, sort by poster, and then within that poster, sort by date, or by file name or title. Unfortunately, a lot of posters use the default post engines, so they have the same poster name. So it's common to have poster Yenc-Powerpost post something I'm interested in (like Shin Kasouken or Bloody Monday), and then a few days later another poster, also using the same default name of Yenc-Powerpost, posts a bunch of unrelated and/or spam messages. They are clearly identifiable if sorting by date, but sorting by date shows everything by all posters interleaved. If I could filter all posters by name, and then sort within that sublisting, it would make things a lot easier.

Btw, I've been using newsbin for at least six years or so, and I've been very happy with it.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby hettich » Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:33 pm

Currently 47 but it tends to grow, then I prune. I also use NZBs, the search option and search sites.
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Re: How many groups are you subscribed to?

Postby sturngrz » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:07 pm

Subscribed to in newsbin: 49
Pay attention to in newsbin: about 30
Subscribe to in N. so that I can search them for something I just heard of and hope will be
worth the effort: about 10
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The bottle neck here would be the time it takes to deal with some nine gigs of data that
NTFS compresses to about seven gigs (That's one group, and not the biggest, and thank you
for the header age option>).
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Most of my hands on DL's are from several automated searches I have bookmarked in the
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