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Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:57 pm
by dexter
Fixed a crash on startup problem introduced in B10. Also fixed the issue with using a single server. Seems to be pretty stable now.

Summary:
  • Server priority can now be seen and set from the Servers tab. Set from the right-click menu.
  • Fixed issue where having a single server configured wasn't working correctly.
  • Fixed crash on startup issue introduced in B10
  • Performed tweaks to obtain more consisten download speeds.
  • Fixed issue where failed files list was not saving
More details and the download link for Beta 11 is on the Newsbin Beta Page.

Reply to this thread or contact us through the Newsbin Support Form for bug reports or issues with this release.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:38 am
by gkar
Like the new settings for look ahead :) Downloads are flowing better. Ive set retries back to 2 from 10 and I'm not seeing any failed files due to "Ran out of retries" Tested with max connections and long list of small files.

Download status icons are still broken :(

Text on column heading for server Master/Slave says Priority, yet Priority Column says Fill Server.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:56 am
by Quade
I'm not seeing anything wrong with the icons. It doesn't include the pars in the calculation of "downloading". Maybe that's what you're seeing.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:40 pm
by gkar
this what i mean

Image

On NB load or addition of files to the list, files are getting there first chunk downloaded and icon says downloading. The problem is when download moves completely back to 1st file, the rest of the "first chunkers" still show download icon yet have stopped downloading.

BTW is it a PIA to make to Que'd chunks appear with a darker green highlight? Thx

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:53 pm
by Quade
Hmm, that's 100% normal.

I haven't set a chunk color so, I can set it to something else. I'll look into it.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:57 pm
by gkar
thx for the reply

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:50 pm
by gkar
spoke too soon about the retry problem. Set back to 10 again.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:41 am
by JanJonkman
the problems i had with b10 seems to be solved with B11

Thnx

Jan

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:18 am
by JayPea
Had a weird thing happen earlier with B11.....

When starting up NB this morning I noticed that my .nbi file had seemed to reset itself. No group list, no server information, window position reset and the file size had reduced dramatically. Basically like it was a fresh installation. Oh well, not a problem, I had a backup from about 2 months ago so I restored it, added in my extra subscriptions since that time and then proceeded to pull my last 30 days headers again - a minor inconvenience. Now when pulling down content everything seems to be going into a folder called 'Placeholder' when I have Drive:\$(GROUP)\ selected as the download location which has never happened before.

Tried a reinstall of B11 over the top and it's still the same. I was thinking of removing the lot, starting again at 6.42, configuring and then upgrading to B11 but I'd rather not if I can get away with it. Any ideas?

Cheers.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:49 am
by Quade
In the options menu, there's an option called "Load Backup Configuration on Restart". If you use that, you can restore a fairly current backup of the configuration. I think the problem is the backup NBI you're using is older than some of the new features in the beta.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:56 am
by JayPea
That's a great option and something I hadn't noticed despite using the application for almost 7 years! I was doing it all manually. Whoopsie.

Unfortunately even going back to the earliest backup still didn't stop it from happening. No worries, I've already rolled back and then upgraded as I suggested above and the pathing is back to normal.

Now If only I could get the tabs back at the top of each bank of windows :) but it doesn't matter that much as I've re-adjusted my layout to cope with it.

Thanks for the advice above.

Cheers.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:56 am
by itimpi
JayPea wrote:Now If only I could get the tabs back at the top of each bank of windows :) but it doesn't matter that much as I've re-adjusted my layout to cope with it.

That is an option on the View menu

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:58 am
by JayPea
I'll just get my coat.....

In my defence, I haven't set up the windows since moving from v4 to v5 but I have no such excuse for not looking through every menu myself. I did trawl every page of the options mind you.

Still, like I said, no excuse.

Cheers.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:40 am
by Quade
Well, it's what the forum is for.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:02 pm
by mathesar
When I upgraded to 6.50B11 the odometer reading in the lower left corner reset to "0KB Total" and has been stuck there ever since.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:50 pm
by IdontexistM8
First time I've downloaded something since updating to latest beta and server priority didn't work for me for some reason. I applaud it's back, however I'd prefer normal and fill separation with priority rather than the current set-up.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:21 pm
by Quade
I applaud it's back, however I'd prefer normal and fill separation with priority rather than the current set-up.


I don't know what this means. If you want to simulate fill and not fill, just use priority 1 and 2.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:46 pm
by IdontexistM8
Quade wrote:
I applaud it's back, however I'd prefer normal and fill separation with priority rather than the current set-up.


I don't know what this means. If you want to simulate fill and not fill, just use priority 1 and 2.


Well the few files I downloaded came through on priority 3 rather than 1. I noticed I may have had an issue with having multiple servers set on priority 1, so I altered the line-up. Then to check I re-downloaded the earlier files with priority 3 plus all other servers bar a single priority 1 disabled. No problems with priority 1.

In further testing with different files I noticed priority 3 again downloading first, disabling it started priority 2, disabling that started priority 1.

So I'm a little confused, perhaps I've completely missed something?

A main server(s) option and then priority for fills would be better for me at least.

FYI - I went from the last stable version to this beta, so I'm not aware what the situation was with previous betas.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:21 pm
by itimpi
Are you sure you are running B11? In earlier betas the priority system was reversed (higher numbered priority first). In the current B11 it should be lower priority number first.

There is no problem with having multiple servers at the same priority level - they just load share.

If you put your main server(s) at priority 1 and any fill servers at lower priority that should give you what you want

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:30 pm
by Quade
It doesn't matter what priority you set in the servers.

1-2-3

3-4-5

4-5-6

A lower numbered server will be used before an upper numbered one. Having servers with the same priority or all the same priority is also fine.

1,1,1,2 for instance. All the 1's would get used before the #2 gets used. That's essentially "fill" server.

1,1,1,2 and
1,1,1,10

Would be functionally identical.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:36 pm
by IdontexistM8
itimpi wrote:Are you sure you are running B11? In earlier betas the priority system was reversed (higher numbered priority first). In the current B11 it should be lower priority number first.


Yep, B11.

@Quade, I dunno what's amiss at my end but p3 was definitely downloading ahead of p1 or p2. I'll do some re-ordering and take another look tomorrow.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:47 pm
by dexter
Check the Logging tab for errors. If anything errored out on the higher priority servers, it gets assigned to the next priority.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:29 pm
by larft
Started running into this today when trying to DL a post directly from a refreshed group:

[15:09:14] ERROR Resolver: Unable to find Download data - 1

Running 6.5B11 Build: 2854

I don't recall ever seeing this error, where is the data missing from? The server or my system?

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:34 pm
by IdontexistM8
dexter wrote:Check the Logging tab for errors. If anything errored out on the higher priority servers, it gets assigned to the next priority.


I've saved the logfile and will go through it tomorrow.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:16 pm
by Quade
[15:09:14] ERROR Resolver: Unable to find Download data - 1


If you're downloading from headers, it'd missing from your PC. If you're downloading from search, it might be a problem contacting our server.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:39 pm
by larft
If you're downloading from headers, it'd missing from your PC. If you're downloading from search, it might be a problem contacting our server.


Downloading from stored headers. So are you're saying I have a problem with my locally stored database files for that group? Just tried updating headers again and am now getting a load of these:

[22:33:05] ERROR Unable to Update Data record:

Sounds like my database files for that group are trashed. What's the best way to straighten it out, delete the group and re-download? Or is there a way to recover what's there and then refresh the group?

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:40 am
by Quade
It does sound like it's damaged. Typically there's no recovery and only a re-download will fix it. A right click "Post Storage/Delete Stored Posts" should clear it and let you re-download.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:40 pm
by chimmyjim
I'm having trouble with incomplete posts not finishing (even after 2 days) and after manually doing Assemble Incompletes, NewsBin will write the damaged file and then clear the download from the list. Doesn't do any repair. I have AutoPar enabled. Didn't make any changes to the config after upgrading from 6.42.

Any ideas what would cause this? Seems to happen with any post that has complete parts.

Thanks,

Jim

Update: Re-adding the post a couple of times will eventually get it to go. Side note, auto-par is only using a single core (AMD proc, enabled multi-thread on install)

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:35 am
by ddaniel51
[quote="mathesar"]When I upgraded to 6.50B11 the odometer reading in the lower left corner reset to "0KB Total" and has been stuck there ever since.[/quote]

Getting same thing with 9, 10 and 11. Odometer reset does not help.

Dave

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:44 am
by Quade
Hmm...what version of windows are you using?

Edit: That shouldn't matter. I moved the number to the GUIItems.db3 file under "my documents". It suggests it can't save it there.

So, is it counting up while downloading and going back to zero when you restart?

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:29 am
by nada2k
chimmyjim, do you have "Aggressive Mode" turned on? If yes, does it make a difference if you turn it off? For me "Aggressive Mode" does not work anymore if there are chunks missing, NewsBin just doesn't try to repair then.

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:43 pm
by chimmyjim
nada2k wrote:chimmyjim, do you have "Aggressive Mode" turned on? If yes, does it make a difference if you turn it off? For me "Aggressive Mode" does not work anymore if there are chunks missing, NewsBin just doesn't try to repair then.


Turned it off and we'll see we happens.

Thanks,

Jim

Re: Version 6.50 Beta 11 Available...

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:24 am
by Quade
For the odometer thing, how about exiting Newsbin, searching for "GuiItems.db3" then deleting it and then see if the odometer starts working.