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motd

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:07 am
by gkar
motd is appearing every time i load NB. it is updating its message though(seeing beta 4 message at mo)

if i turn motd off it stays off

any ideas

thks :)

Re: motd

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:48 pm
by dexter
Odd, doesn't happen for me. You are running the latest beta? Are you going through a web proxy or something? Wonder if a proxy is confusing Newsbin or something. Newsbin shouldn't be popping up the motd again unless the content changed . A proxy might be changing something in the headers that makes Newsbin think there is a new message. I suppose some Internet Security software might do this too if it is scanning web traffic and making changes to the headers.

Re: motd

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:29 am
by gkar
Ok have just tried running NB on another PC and having no issues with motd. Am unable to load my nbi into it though, getting errors. Clearly its something on this PC. Any ideas?

win 7 64bit
win firewall off
comodo firewall
mse antivirus

although have tried in beta 2 with no security software installed, so cant be that.

grateful for any pointers anyone has :)

Re: motd

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:36 am
by gkar
update

just deleted my nbi file, made no difference

Re: motd

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:53 am
by dexter
gkar wrote:although have tried in beta 2 with no security software installed, so cant be that.


Did you reboot your machine after disabling the security software? That is required before its really out of the way. The only thing I'm unsure about is the comodo firewall. I'd disable that, reboot your machine, and see what happens.

Re: motd

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:39 am
by gkar
thx 4 the reply

tried switching firewall off rebooting - no diff

even tried uninstalling firewall now - no diff

is it safe to install 6.34? or will that cause issues?(clutching at straws again)

Re: motd

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:50 am
by dexter
Only problem going back to 6.34 is you'll need to reconfigure your download path. The download path settings are not backward compatible.

Re: motd

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:57 am
by gkar
wierd going back to 6.34 sorted it no MOTD popup(motd is switched on in options). Reinstalled latest beta and motd is popping up again.

Re: motd

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:43 pm
by gkar
any other ideas?

why does 6.34 work and not latest beta?

Re: motd

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:58 pm
by dexter
There was a change to the timeout between 6.40 and 6.41 for checking the MOTD so it doesn't slow down Newsbin's loading. I wonder if you are on the edge of that timeout in terms of that initial connection to our server or something. How about doing a traceroute to www.newsbin.com and see how long it takes. It could also be that some Internet Security software is delaying the initial connection just enough so Newsbin misses the timestamp. Is anyone else noticing this?

Re: motd

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:09 pm
by gkar
1 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms
2 22 ms 22 ms 23 ms
3 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms
4 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms
5 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms
6 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms
7 96 ms 97 ms 97 ms
8 96 ms 95 ms 95 ms
9 192 ms 132 ms 95 ms
10 100 ms 97 ms 97 ms
11 96 ms 95 ms 96 ms

as for security software did you not read my last posts?

Re: motd

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:17 pm
by dexter
Yes, I know you are running Microsoft Essentials. Quade runs it too with no problems. I'm grasping at straws at this point. Only thing I can think of is you have a longer reach coming from Europe. Is anyone else seeing this with 6.41?

Re: motd

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:56 pm
by gkar
why not run it in the background?

maybe look at the way newsleecher handles motd etc

Re: motd

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:01 pm
by dexter
It's not that we don't know how to do it. I'm at a loss because you seem to be the only one having an issue with it.

Re: motd

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:17 pm
by gkar
do the hop times look ok in traceroute above?

Re: motd

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:22 pm
by dexter
They are slower than mine but I live 20 miles from the server. They are not slow enough to cause me concern. Unless someone else chimes in with the same problem to help us troubleshoot, we're kindof stuck right now. Nobody else is reporting this over tech support, irc, or on the forums.

Re: motd

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:49 am
by gkar
ok, thx the input. See what happens next time in reinstall windows.