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six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:27 pm
by lesgrandfomage
Hi
I went back to 5.again. I need to be able to turn off compact view. the way you have V 6 setup makes it just about unusable for me. very disappointed. please consider making a change.
John.

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:49 pm
by richy99
its being discussed, the compact mode was one of the fundemental changes in 6 to make iot load large groups quicker and into less ram

dont forget v6 is still beta and subject to change, probaly best you hang on using v5.59 until 6 is either release candidate or released

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:51 pm
by Quade
You old timers can stick with 5.59. I'm all right with that.

Compact mode is here to stay. Still thinking about a single button "expand/contract" (which you can do now, sort of) though. In that way, <Snark removed> and the people who like compact mode don't get stuck with the RAM and performance hit of expanding everything.

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:01 pm
by lesgrandfomage
nice way to treat your customer's, if I don't like it,take a walk?

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:15 pm
by Quade
There's no winning either way so it's not clear to me that there is a solution that'll make everyone happy.

Spool loading in 5.59 is pretty horribly slow and consumed too much RAM. But, the old timers like how they can scroll and eyeball the lists in high speed. 6 speeds up loading and reduces RAM use but, the people who depend on the specific look of the post list, aren't happy. 5.59 is always there for you and as I said, I might give you a way to expand the list with one button, basically making it as slow or slower than 5.59 to load but, making it look sort of like how you like it.

I know I can't make everyone happy.

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:26 pm
by richy99
lesgrandfomage wrote:nice way to treat your customer's, if I don't like it,take a walk?


but nobody is making you upgrade?

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:49 pm
by DThor
Compact is one of the major features of v6. If you don't like it, the two key shortcut(possibly a single button or option in the final) gets you back to expanded and nested, even easier to peruse than 5 since the nesting breaks up the list more but you still get to keep all that endless scrolling. If you really really dislike the fact of compact, and just plain don't want it, I really don't think you're missing all that much by sticking with 5. It's going to be quite usable for quite some time. If a single button 'expand' does show up in the final, I would think that addresses most of your issues, no? I really don't see this as any kind of abandonment...

DT

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:45 pm
by davidn
Quade wrote:You old timers can stick with 5.59. I'm all right with that.

Compact mode is here to stay. Still thinking about a single button "expand/contract" (which you can do now, sort of) though. In that way, <Snark removed> and the people who like compact mode don't get stuck with the RAM and performance hit of expanding everything.


I've grown to like the compact mode. Now if you could compact those posts that don't compact you would make me happy.

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:58 pm
by Quade
It's Usenet, it's always a work in progress. Some people purposely post in screwed up ways to avoid compaction. So, yeah, improvements are never ending.

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:35 am
by Discs
Well this old timer likes the compact way maybe I like change, if it makes things better

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:59 am
by DThor
Hehe yeah, I don't think Quade meant old = hate everything new. I got all of ya beat! ;)

DT

Re: six needs a fix

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:55 am
by Quade
You're only an old timer if you think like an old timer. You know the "get off of my lawn!" type of old timer.