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Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgroups?

Postby foomanchu » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:41 pm

Example search: 452e0ac551ed4f61a02af278a3e92185

Should find results in alt.binaries.goat, alt.binaries.flowed, alt.binaries.superman, alt.binaries.xylo, alt.binaries.goonies, but search does not find anything.

Any idea whats wrong? Is the search broken?
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby dexter » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:04 pm

Can you give me more context around this? We started filtering out stuff that cannot be combined into a file. Some obfuscated posts are broken up and posted across groups and our database currently does not attempt to combine these. If you have a source you can share, feel free to PM me.
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby foomanchu » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:29 pm

That explains it. This particular item is spread across multiple news groups.

Is there any possibility of getting these back into the index even if they are spread across newsgroups?

Usually this is done to obfuscate the post I am guessing, where a few of the files are in one news group, a few in another, etc.

Most of the modern usenet searchers are smart enough to roll these up into one .nzb file.

I'd be happy with them just showing up in the results, I don't really care if they roll up or not.
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby dexter » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:48 pm

We are redesigning the mechanism that feeds our search database to work across groups. Currently it processes on a group by group basis so files that are split up across multiple groups cannot be identified. Did you perform a search on the subject of the actual content to see if it is in our database anyways? Again, if you can PM me more details about this file, I can look into it further and maybe use it as a test case to make sure our new system is able to index it.
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby foomanchu » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:52 pm

Thanks, Tried to send you the .nzb file with all the details you would need but the forum software doesn't support that?
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby foomanchu » Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:55 pm

Yes, I tried searching, and 0 results came up.

You could download the full list of newsgroups from the following groups then load them all:

alt.binaries.goat, alt.binaries.flowed, alt.binaries.superman, alt.binaries.xylo, alt.binaries.goonies

You will find that 452e0ac551ed4f61a02af278a3e92185.part01.rar is in alt.binaries.goat
452e0ac551ed4f61a02af278a3e92185.part02.rar is in alt.binaries.flowed

and so on...
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby dexter » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:14 pm

NZB would save me alot of time. You can email it to ts at newsbin dot com.

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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby foomanchu » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:53 pm

Submitted example .nzb via PM. Any updates on this?
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby dexter » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:24 am

Your example is like 9 months old. We are working to support posts like this as they come in but not sure if we'll be able to re-apply it to the beginning of the year. This is not a trivial task but we are working on it.
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby foomanchu » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:45 pm

Thanks!
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby foomanchu » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:00 pm

Any update on this? I tried searching for this post "31ebcd75c18d40258ddc760f411645d8" on Newsbin Pro 6.82B9, but no results Image link not allowed for unregistered users

It should return results on alt.binaries.flowed
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Re: Newsbin Search omits alt.binaries.goat and other newsgro

Postby foomanchu » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:05 pm

Looks like my search subscription came due today. Guess I won't be renewing since it isn't effective anyways. The other online indexers work way better.
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