Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

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Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby u_no_fr » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:20 pm

Hi all

I am over optical fiber ad my DL BW is almost 500Mbps and DL almost 200Mbps
I would like to understand why I seem to be limited at around 200Mbps in DL mode
My settings :
SSL with default port
news.eu.supernews.com or news.supernews.com
30 bots allowed

If you want some speedest printscreen, ping or tracert I will give you

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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pra and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:28 pm

If you look down at the status bar where it shows two numbers: "Cache: X/Y". What do these numbers showing during download?

How much RAM do you have?
What kind of PC and hard drive is it?

The limits of download speed will be either:
1 - The server.
2 - The network,
3 - The disk drives.

Or some combination. Just because you have 500 to the net, that doesn't mean all paths to the news server are that fast. I've gotten 500 Mbps to my local server but it's sitting right on the same 1 Gbps Ethernet segment as my PC. I have a couple users who regularly get > 300 Mbps going to a couple different news servers. As an experiment, I might sign up with another news server. Maybe astraweb and add it to the servers you use so, they data is spread over multiple servers.

You might uninstall your security software, reboot and try some test downloads too. You can always re-install it if it's not causing a slowdown.
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pra and Supernews?

Postby u_no_fr » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:30 am

Quade wrote:If you look down at the status bar where it shows two numbers: "Cache: X/Y". What do these numbers showing during download? Cache is aound 7 to 36 sometime 0/200

How much RAM do you have? 4G of RAM
What kind of PC and hard drive is it? It is sata 3 or 6Gb HDD, the system disk is a SSD one

All My network is a Gb one (Lan card, Switch, NAS, Internet Box)

The limits of download speed will be either:
1 - The server.
2 - The network,
3 - The disk drives.

Or some combination. Just because you have 500 to the net, that doesn't mean all paths to the news server are that fast. I've gotten 500 Mbps to my local server but it's sitting right on the same 1 Gbps Ethernet segment as my PC. I have a couple users who regularly get > 300 Mbps going to a couple different news servers. As an experiment, I might sign up with another news server. Maybe astraweb and add it to the servers you use so, they data is spread over multiple servers.

You might uninstall your security software, reboot and try some test downloads too. You can always re-install it if it's not causing a slowdown.No FW security, only Eset Nod32
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pra and Supernews?

Postby itimpi » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:41 am

u_no_fr wrote:
Quade wrote:If you look down at the status bar where it shows two numbers: "Cache: X/Y". What do these numbers showing during download? Cache is aound 7 to 36 sometime 0/200

So you have 200 cache buffers (costing around 120Mb of RAM based on typical post sizes of 600KB). If cache is going to 0 free then this suggests that your disk is not keeping up with the download speed. You can increase the size of the cache by editing the Newsbin .nbi file that you are using. Whether this will help you I am not sure.
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pra and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:24 am

Yeah, that's probably a good idea. You only have 4 gigs of RAM though so, you don't want it too bug. I might set it to 400.

[Performance]
ChunkCacheSize=400


You'd have to add this to the NBI file. Use Wordpad. I'd back up the NBI file first.
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pra and Supernews?

Postby u_no_fr » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:27 am

I can not find cahe line in newsbin.nbi file !!!
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pra and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:30 am

That's because it's not in there. You have to add it.
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby u_no_fr » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:01 am

other good tips ??? lik this one ??
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:49 am

If you had more RAM I'd suggest making it larger.

Faster hard disk and faster computer could all help too. The performance you're looking for is bleeding edge, meaning everything has to be working properly and the equipment has to be top notch to achieve it.
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby u_no_fr » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:52 am

I had put ChunkCacheSize=600 and I reach almost 380Mbps

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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:03 pm

600 cache blocks can equal 360 megs of RAM. Might need to keep an eye on ram usage.
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby u_no_fr » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:11 pm

is there a good smart tool that can show cpu and RMA usage with NBPRO DL ?
Because it is not easy to find DDR2 @ good price now Image link not allowed for unregistered users
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:27 pm

I use Task Manager. It's built into windows.
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:16 pm

Nice. CPU load's pretty high. What security software do you use?
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby u_no_fr » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:59 pm

LOL the reply from supernews support team leader LOL

Alec D
Jan 20, 12:37
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Supernews Support! I apologize that you're experiencing this issue. In examining the route your traffic takes to our servers and the speeds you're currently getting from the service, we do not anticipate being able to increase your speeds above 298Mb/s. The speeds you see from our servers are highly dependent on the physical conditions of the network between your computer and our server. Please note that we do not place restrictions on customer's download speeds.
It appears that the configuration of your newsreader is optomized to get you the best speeds from our servers.
If you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to let us know.
Best,
Alec
Supernews Support Team Lead




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I still have problem with your servers in SSL mode (Ports 563 or 443)
I meet the same pb with news.eu.supernews.com or news.supernews.com

My precedent request with newsleecher :
Name:
Login:
Problem Started: 01/11/2014
News Client: Newsleecher
Operating System: N/A
IP Address: 90.2.127.6
Hostname: APuteaux-655-1-120-6.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr
Hi,
I am on Win7 SP1 with fiber access up to 500Mbps in DL and 200Mbps in UP
It seems that I can't use my full bandwidth with your servers!!!
My maximum speed is 200MBps on monitoring
Thanks for reply

Requests : (#25936)
Envoi d'une requête 'ping' sur news.eu.supernews.com [138.199.67.30] avec 32 oct
ets de données :
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=23 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=23 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=21 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=21 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=21 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=21 ms TTL=50
Réponse de 138.199.67.30 : octets=32 temps=22 ms TTL=50
Statistiques Ping pour 138.199.67.30:
Paquets : envoyés = 25, reçus = 25, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),
Durée approximative des boucles en millisecondes :
Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 23ms, Moyenne = 21ms

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers news.eu.supernews.com [138.199.67.30]
avec un maximum de 30 sauts :
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms LIVEBOX [192.168.1.1]
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 80.10.123.7
3 4 ms 1 ms 2 ms 10.123.203.138
4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms ae41-0.nipst101.Paris.francetelecom.net [193.252
.159.26]
5 4 ms 3 ms 4 ms 81.253.184.2
6 4 ms 2 ms 2 ms be3044.ccr21.par04.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1
5.93]
7 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms be2308.ccr41.par01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.73
.229]
8 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms be2265.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.61
.154]
9 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms be2038.rcr21.ams05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.36
.134]
10 115 ms 116 ms 119 ms 149.11.104.10
11 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms news.supernews.com [138.199.67.30]
Itinéraire déterminé.
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Your Public IP Location: France
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:12 pm

Only Eset Nod32 antivirus


If you want to see how it's impacting your download speed and CPU load. You might uninstall nod32, reboot and try a couple downloads. I wouldn't be surprised if much of your high CPU load is from your anti-virus.
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby u_no_fr » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:27 pm

Quade wrote:
Only Eset Nod32 antivirus


If you want to see how it's impacting your download speed and CPU load. You might uninstall nod32, reboot and try a couple downloads. I wouldn't be surprised if much of your high CPU load is from your anti-virus.


Yes but which one can I choose instead of nod32?
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Re: Bandwith limitation ?? NB pro and Supernews?

Postby Quade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:45 pm

You could experiment. See which one permits the fastest downloads.
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