Servers with Priority 2 never used.

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Servers with Priority 2 never used.

Postby Biship » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:55 am

Forgive me if I am misunderstanding the purpose of prioritizing servers.

I have 4 servers with these priorities:
1. us.astraweb.com
1. us.frugalnews.com
2. eu.astraweb.com (slave)
2. eu.frugalnews.com (slave)

When Newsbin (3334) reports "Failed to retrieve article... 430 No such article", I see its only for my two priority 1 servers.
It never tries the priority 2 servers (I don't even see connections opened to them).
Obviously what I would like is for Newsbin to pull everything from either us based servers, and then try the eu bases servers if it can not find it.
Do I have this set up wrong? I am in the US BTW.
Thanks!
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Re: Servers with Priority 2 never used.

Postby Quade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:25 pm

What version are you using?

It should be trying all 4 servers. How do you determine it's only using the first two?
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Re: Servers with Priority 2 never used.

Postby Biship » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:31 pm

6.55 3334.

I actually have 5 servers. From the logs only the first 2 are used:
1. ssl.astraweb.com
1. ssl-us.astraweb.com
1. news.frugalusenet.com (slave)
2. ssl-eu.astraweb.com (slave)
2. eunews.frugalusenet.com (slave)

I have the p1 & p2 frugalnews servers set to retention 300 days, and noticed they also not used.
The post is from 5/2/14. (221 days ago).

Entire log:
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[12:15:30]  HIGH  Aggressive Assembly mode: Enabled
[12:15:30]  HIGH  PAR Pausing:  Enabled
[12:15:30]  HIGH  Par2Repair - Multi-core 1.5
[12:15:30]  HIGH  MessageId Filter: Disabled
[12:15:30]  HIGH  FileType Version: 2.01
[12:15:37]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: is.newsbin.com SSL Cert: isearch.newsbin.com Stats: DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA  256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:42]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: is.newsbin.com SSL Cert: isearch.newsbin.com Stats: DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA  256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:45]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: news.frugalusenet.com SSL Cert: news.frugalusenet.com Stats: AES256-SHA zlib compression 256 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl-us.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:48]  LOW   Connection Status: SSL Connection Server: ssl.astraweb.com SSL Cert: *.astraweb.com Stats: RC4-SHA  128 TLSv1/SSLv3
[12:15:51]  HIGH  Failed to retrieve Article from Server:ssl.astraweb.com ARTICLE <part244of421.o6bFYuWk9qhvzWyOmyFh@powerpost2000AA.local>
 | 430 No such article
[12:15:52]  HIGH  Failed to retrieve Article from Server:ssl-us.astraweb.com ARTICLE <part244of421.o6bFYuWk9qhvzWyOmyFh@powerpost2000AA.local>
 | 430 No such article
[12:15:52]  HIGH  Failed to retrieve Article from Server:ssl-us.astraweb.com ARTICLE <part325of421.o6bFYuWk9qhvzWyOmyFh@powerpost2000AA.local>
 | 430 No such article
[12:15:53]  HIGH  Failed to retrieve Article from Server:ssl.astraweb.com ARTICLE <part325of421.o6bFYuWk9qhvzWyOmyFh@powerpost2000AA.local>
 | 430 No such article
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Re: Servers with Priority 2 never used.

Postby Quade » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:14 pm

I have the p1 & p2 frugalnews servers set to retention 300 days, and noticed they also not used.


I'd disable typical retention and see if the symptoms change. I just tested priority stuff yesterday.

1. ssl.astraweb.com
1. ssl-us.astraweb.com


These servers are the same. No real point to having both in the list.

How many total AW connections do you have configured between all the AW server entries? The connection limit is across all servers meaning you probably want no more than 5-6 connections per server.
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Re: Servers with Priority 2 never used.

Postby Biship » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:40 pm

The max connections for each provider is 20 and I had spread them out over the servers.

On your advice, this is how it now looks:

1. ssl-us.astraweb.com
1. news.frugalusenet.com (slave)
2. ssl-eu.astraweb.com (slave)
2. eunews.frugalusenet.com (slave)

(each server gets 10 connections, and the log does not show any connections refused)

Now when I try to download the same post, I do not get a single "Failed to retrieve Article".

According to the post properties, the post is missing many parts, and Newsbin doesn't even try to download them.
How does it know all 4 of the servers do not contain those parts?
Isn't there a chance one of the servers has one of the missing posts?
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Re: Servers with Priority 2 never used.

Postby Quade » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:14 pm

According to the post properties, the post is missing many parts, and Newsbin doesn't even try to download them.


If they're missing, that means the data needed to download them doesn't exist. So, there's nothing for newsbin to try to download. It doesn't matter how many servers you have. You can't download something without the information tell Newsbin HOW to download.
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Re: Servers with Priority 2 never used.

Postby Biship » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:47 pm

Ignore. Had some servers with lower retention that were skipping files.
As a side question, when NB says "All Posts Available", but the servers I use report missing parts - what servers is NB using to determine all posts are avail?
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Re: Servers with Priority 2 never used.

Postby Quade » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:59 pm

Are you using search or headers?

Assuming you're talking search, I believe most of the headers are off Giganews. Keep in mind though that they might be complete when downloaded and soon after the server might remove the files. If you're getting 430 errors on newish files then they've been removed. If you get 430s on files > 1400 days old. It's bit rot. They'd just fallen off the server.
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